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Using a guitar to drive a synth in Caustic

Does such a thing even make sense on a purely conceptual level? Considering that there are already instruments like the keytar and other guitar-keyboard hybrids, I wonder if it would be possible to hook up your guitar to your phone, maybe with a USB audio interface in between and use your guitar to control the synths in Caustic. How exactly the note range of the guitar and the pick velocity would be translated to MIDI events isn't all that clear yet, but it might work. It could be another way to make your music sound more organic.

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There are apps on iOS that

There are apps on iOS that can make MIDI from guitar (or other audio source) in realtime. I have tried the MIDI Guitar 2, but it runs rather poorly on iPad2 at least for polyphonic input (chords) regarding resources ie stuttering sound. Haven't tried to connect with Caustic though. Can give it a try and report back.

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Would be interesting to hear

Would be interesting to hear how that combination (MIDI guitar 2 -> caustic) worked out. Thanks for looking into this. 

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My Stick has a Roland GK-2A

My Stick has a Roland GK-2A pickup under the treble strings. If I had an adapter for 5-pin DIN to USB, I could probably connect the GR-33 synth to the PC or tablet and drive Caustic that way.

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yes

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Oh, nice! Guess I have to

Oh, nice! Guess I have to give it another go. Maybe clean out the drive on my iPad somewhat first, seems to run smoothly on his device.

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Edgey, is that a silent video

Edgey, is that a silent video? Seems odd to have a tutorial for music creation with no sound.

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It has sound once he starts

It has sound once he starts playing.

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Not much sound at the

Not much sound at the beginning. Skip to 4mins for the demo.

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I guess I'm used to tutorials

I guess I'm used to tutorials with audible narration instead of text captions.

 

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I was beta tester for MIDI

I was beta tester for MIDI guitar. This is a pretty cool piece of software, but there are still some limitations (bends, vibrato, no splits) and I went to the hardware thing. I bought a Fishman triple play. The latency is much shorter, better detection, bends and vibrato are recognized you can split your neck in many modes in the laptop version (by strings, by notes, by frets). I find that it's far better if you want to really transcribe your playing to synths. And you don't have to modify your instrument. No wires too, the receptor is a USB key, you just have to plug it to your iDevice or laptop, as a regular midi device.

Midi guitar is good for catching notes, but you can do the same with a keyboard, you'll miss that particular "guitar expression" you can put in bends and vibrato.

@Steph: you can now find cheap midi-to-usb cables. They all work pretty good, but the faster and more reliable I've found is the Roland UMG1.

The other way, usb>5pin midi is more tricky to find: I only know 2 devices: Kenton USBmidi and Mode Machine's Cerebel. I ordered the Cerebel in order to use my Triple play with old fashionned midi devices. 

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The thingĀ about the GK-2A is

The thing about the GK-2A is that its output is NOT a 5-pin DIN as found on older MIDI equipment, but rather a proprietary 13-pin DIN cable that interfaces only with other Roland equipment (necessitating my dropping another couple hundred fish on the GR-33 back in 2000).

If I'd known that at the time I was ordering my Stick, I might have foregone MIDI and got the 12-string Grand Stick instead. angry

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Skarabee, looks like the

Skarabee, looks like the device you mention is now the Roland UM-ONE MK2.
https://www.amazon.com/Roland-UM-ONE-MK2-MIDI-Interface/dp/B00967UN50
But apparently it can be had for under fourty fish. I'll think about it come birthday time in July.