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Alpha Yui
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Music Olympics

I don't watch live TV. I also didn't watch the olympics, unless my mother decided she had to see show jumping (basically you ride horses and jump over obstacles) during dinner. I sometimes watch movies or shows, but definitely not as often as some people do. If Andy Zamoron would steal my TV one day it'd probably take me one week to notice and just another one to already forget about it.

I was recently wondering why this is the case and I came to the simple conclusion that nothing that is shown in live TV really interests me. I'm neither a sports guy, nor a cooking guy, nor a quiz guy. I rather look up information myself than watch documentaions and I'm staying updated on the news via internet for a long time now. So what are the themes I indeed would be interested in watching? My main interests are music, coding and gaming.

When I want to see live gaming I go to Twitch or Youtube. If RocketLeague would be a live competition in public TV I'd most probably watch it, but Twitch streams are just fine.

Coding is nothing you watch shows about. Movie makers can try to make it look as interesting as they want: When you're not the one in front of the machine, it's just boring.

So only music is left. There are quite a lot formats on music. I haven't found one yet that I didn't hate seconds after I first saw it. X-Factor (DSDS in Germany), Eurovision Song Contest and all that shit just makes me sick by watching it, and I think it's the same for any other musician. Or person with even the slightest affection for music. It's commercial, it's generic, it's the worst side of modern music culture.

 

Long story, short end: I want to present to you the idea of: Music olympics!

Artists from all around the world would show off their skills in various disciplines. It wouldn't be competitive, this just doesn't work with music, although the title "olympics" suggest it. The Olymp was the highest temple of the greek gods and was used to symbolize that the participants deserve highest respect for their skill. Artists from all around the world would write songs during the olympics. For one discipline, artist from various genres would be randomly matched to write songs together. As there would be no winning condition, the only objective would be the art itself, the process of publicly writing music. The olympics would close with a big final event for every discipline, where the songs where presented one last time.

This would be something I would look forwards to for four years. It wouldn't be commercial, it would be fair. It would be something both artists and audience would look back on even years afterwards.So tell me, why exactly doesn't this exist already?!

Do you think this idea makes sense at all? (At least in theory?) What kind of disciplines would you suggest?

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Why not?  However, the

Why not?  However, the competitive component could still be there.  After all, a good portion of the athletic Olympics is decided by judges scores, so why not music?  All in all, this is a really fun idea.  I think you could have live competitions as well as recorded, you could even have multimedia events.  I mean, if you can have that rhythmic gymnastics thing with the big ribbon, why not a music Olympics?

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I don't think there should be

I don't think there should be anything in the Olympics that cannot be timed, measured, or counted... All of this subjective stuff is bollocks.

So you have to throw an object furthest, jump longest or highest, run fastest, swim fastest, get the most balls in nets or holes etc.

Timed, measured or counted.

Therefore music falls outside of this stipulation as a crappy subjective "sport" and can be put next to dancing horses and told to bollock off and doesn't belong in the Olympics.

... Just to be on the fence about it...

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That's why I said the term

That's why I said the term "olympics" might be misleading. You can call it whatever you want, if you don't want the name to be associated with competition. I don't like those subjective grading systems either.
 

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But it is a hugely bad idea,

But it is a hugely bad idea, music is so subjective, speed metal vs classical, which is better?! Is a daft qustion to ask in the first place, and foolish to attempt to answer it.

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That's why it is not

That's why it is not attempted to answer such a stupid question in such an event.

Like I said: The term "olympics" only implies that the participants deserve highest respect, the competitive element is only brought in by sports.

If you'd do a public event like this with music, you'd remove that competitive element entirely. That's the whole idea behind it.

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There are already a myriad of

There are already a myriad of music competitions out there, maybe more in the jazz world, but competition is already happening. Why not have an "olympics" that draws from a worldwide pool?  Maybe, to borrow from the Olympics they all still represent their countries.  You wouldn't mix genres, each could have its own events.  You might get a gold Jazz Trio 3:00 Composition while someone could win in the Speed Metal 4:00 Performance.  The only problem I see is that all the judges would want to be competing!   This is "just for fun" brainstorming, don't get to serious now.

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I don't think there should be

I don't think there should be anything in the Olympics that cannot be timed, measured, or counted... All of this subjective stuff is bollocks.

What of diving, gymnastics, etc. where the "score" is an arbitrary number of points assigned by judges? There's no objective measurement there - just the subjective opinion of how good the "form" was.

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That's why I'm saying it

That's why I'm saying it wouldn't be a competition! It wouldn't be olympics in a sense of "comparing yourself to others" but in the sense of "getting the respect you deserve". There would be no judges, no points, no winners. The whole ranking thing is something that is used in sports, but shouldn't be applied to music.

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That would be a music

That would be a music festival then!

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As the focus would rather be

As the focus would rather be on live jams and composition, it wouldn't exactly be a festival (although that is definitely the direction my idea is heading :D)

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So, a demoparty? 

So, a demoparty? 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demoparty

 

I learned about those when I started getting into chiptunes, they sound pretty cool tbh. If I knew how to code better I would make a demo :(