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choir sounds

Hi guys

I'm looking for choir sounds(presets) if you have them please share :)

Tried looking for em on Google, but i found the lame ones

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Yes ??

Yes ??

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did u search the forum for

did u search the forum for presets section??? i'm sure i have found choir sounds for pcm and padsynth.

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To the best my knowledge,

To the best my knowledge, these all came from various free soundfonts However there is a chance that 1 or 2 may have come from another user's song file. If that is the case, sorry for not giving you credit, and if you want it removed let me know and I'll immediately do so.

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Dear Uncle.. I don't know if

Dear Uncle.. I don't know if Rkillah found something interesting in you soundfonts, but at least I did.. Layered Aaaaaaaaaaaaahs is quite a nice one..
Others ?? Several are just sampled synthesizer sounds.. In that case, using the PADsynth or the SUBsynth might be as good, and more economical in terms of megabytes..
But thanx for sharing..

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Yep. No problem. And actually

Yep. No problem. And actually that's the one I thought might have come from another user. But I can definitely see how the echo drops and maybe chorax can be made in the padsynth, but I dunno. I guess I was just too lazy to try and didn't think of it.

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I didn't say thrley were bad

I didn't say thrley were bad sounds, right ?? But to me,they are synthesised sounds..
Maybe not with one single instance of the PADsynth.. Maybe you have to layer 2 or.more PADsynth through the modular.. But I'm sure you can have nice results..
Here are my own cretions.. Free for anyone to use..
The "secret" or trick,to achieve vocal.sounding sounds,is to have a 2nd and or 3rd harmonic slightly,or srongly,louder than the first..
2nd fot Ooooohs.. 3rd for Aaaaahs.. At least on the lower octave, it's working.. And a medium to strong dtune,using the "width" bar,to have a chorus effect..
My sounds.may not be better,but they are cheaper than PCMed ones in terms or memory usage..
A ggod one is "ethereal choir".. You can find it here..
http://www.singlecellsoftware.com/system/files/presets/ETHEREAL%20CHOIR....

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No you're right. I wasn't

No you're right. I wasn't taking offense, just acknowledging the fact. I blame my noobness if that's a good enough excuse. As "basic" (maybe basic isnt the right word) as caustic may be relative to other pro grade software or to a user with years of background experience making music in general, to a noob with little or no background and no other equipment it can be overwhelming. Sure its easy enough to lay down tracks and make a song if your inspired to do so, but with all of the tweakability of each machine not to mention the effects and mixer...and wow I just got way off track. Anyway I guess its easy easy to forget all of your options when there are so many. I find that I tend to lose focus or even interest in whatever I started because I'll inevitably find myself tweaking into a completely different direction and forgetting what I originally wanted to do.

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I just checked out your pads

I just checked out your pads and they're actually better than a lot I've seen in soundfonts. And I'll definitely have to try out your idea with the modular. As crappy as it might turn out, maybe I'll post what I come up with later today or tomorrow.

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Thanx for your comments..

Thanx for your comments..
But you seem surprised by caustic's power ?? It's truly a very powerful tool, even despite its limits and lacks, it's always surprising to see how well it does what it does..
So.. Did you hear JHS.s credo ??
http://www.singlecellsoftware.com/node/10264
This is a convincing modular- modified choir sound.. Using the formant filter..

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" . Anyway I guess its easy

" . Anyway I guess its easy easy to forget all of your options when there are so many. I find that I tend to lose focus or even interest in whatever I started because I'll inevitably find myself tweaking into a completely different direction and forgetting what I originally wanted to do."
Ah ah yes.. I know it well..
But sometimes, that's how you'll be making your best song, or sound..
Some people would say that your muse took the reins ?? Some others will say it's God..

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PS ..

PS ..
Ethereal choir is by Patrick Tow.. And so is "Better Ahhs ".. Both are in the preset section on this forum..

http://www.singlecellsoftware.com/caustic/presets/padsynth

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Well I finally got time to

Well I finally got time to play around some more. I havn't tried the modular method yet, but I tried making my own choir preset with the pads the. It doesn't sound as good as yours, but I tried using using 2 of yours with mine on a midi track I found here. http://www.midisite.co.uk/midi_search/panis_angelicus.html just to see how natural I could get the mix to sound. At some point I had to stop playing with the knobs, so here it is. For some reason there are a lot of pops in it that I can't figure out.unless they have something to do with all the tempo changes. Oh and I also listened to JHS's track. Very cool vibe. I didn't even realize it was possible to get sounds like that with the modular. I would have never guessed there was a formant filter in there.

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Hello Uncle..

Hello Uncle..
Your sound is good, no worry..
Here is a modified version of your monks tune..
On h only used your choir.. The clicks you talk about might be due to the loooooong release rate you used.. I made it much shorter.. That's the only modification I made on AFX Choir 1..
On AFX Choir 2, I reduced the vibrato, shortened the release rate, added some "width" to have a deeper chorus effect, and reduced the higher harmonics.. Cause in a chapel, the reverberation will reduce them.. I also lowered the first harmonic, and thus the 2nd and 3rd are emphasised..
Added reverb on both sounds..
In the sequencer mode, I selected all notes and made them slightly longer, so that there is less gap between notes.. They might even cover eachother.. This way, it reduces the "repeated identical attack" feel which doesn't sound natural..
And last, because all monks will not sing their notes exactly at the very same time, I moved a little bit all notes on one voice, to the right (still in sequencer mode).. On one voice only..
But still your own sound is good.. Truly..

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Thanks again for the tips.

Thanks again for the tips. With all of that in mind maybe now I'll see how I do with the subsynth.

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Here's one thing to try.  Get

Here's one thing to try.  Get a choral sound to where you are feeling good about it.  Then use modular machine input to take that through modular's formant filter.  I actually split the signal through two formant filters with different settings and mixed the output back together.  Since you already have a good sounding choir, you can use the formants to gently to add a little more human sound to the notes.

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Thanx JHS.. But what do you

Thanx JHS.. But what do you mean by splitting the sound or signal.. Which module do you use ?? The crossover/splitter module ??

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I would just take the "out"

I would just take the "out" from the machine input module and connect it to two formant filter modules (or whatever), use a mixer to bring them back together.  However, when you have the two streams, you can run them through whatever you want.  You could filter and process them differently and when mixed back together have a more complex sound.

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Thanx JHS..

Thanx JHS..
Did you have a look at UncleAFX file ?? He's been using the parametric equaliser on one sound.. I just wonder how far this pedal could be used to simulate a formant filter.. It would need much experiments before we find the right settings, but after all, we can have control on the frequency, the slope, the resonance..
Sure, we cannot use 2 of them in parallel mode.. Only in serial mode.. But still..

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Thanks again to both of you.

Thanks again to both of you. And I'll say again nice track JHS. I think I get the basics of what your saying with the modular. I added a very basic one at the last minute to my next file, only to show what I don't get. How do I remove or mask the gurgly pops from the formant filter? In this file I muted everything but the subsynth choirs I made.

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Here is an example of what I

Here is an example of what I said above, about using the parametric EQ, as a formant filter..

First, you have the dry sound.. 16 bars.. Then you hear the parametricaly equalised sound.. Sure, there's more work to do on it, but already, it sounds more vocal.. 

I have used the same "voice", with the same parametric EQ, for lower octaves and higher octaves.. The lower octave sounds not so bad.. The higher ones are not so convincing..

Even, not convincing at all..

I should use a different "voice", means a different PADsynth, with a different setting on the EQs, to have a better result..Maybe I'll spend some time trying this..

But sure, the parametric EQ option looks a valid one..

@ UncleAFX.. I will now have a look and listen to your file..

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Just got yours also.I wonder

Just got yours also.I wonder if RKillah found what he needed?

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I tried your file.. I can't

I tried your file.. I can't hear pops.. Am I becoming deaf, as age grow up ?

But I wonder why you use the SUBsynth.. I don't feel it as the best choice for synthesizing a choir.. I might be wrong..

Anyway, I have tweaked and tweaked the formant filter, with your SUBsynth input.. I didn't get much convincing results.. I shortened the release rate, I detuned osc2 a little more, that was better.. But still not convincng..

Then I selected the PADsynth as source, and yet, it sounded much better..

 

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I tweaked yours a bit... I

I tweaked yours a bit... I made a few minor adjustments with the presets. And going off the equipment idea I added env filters to the effects and the master and tweaked the master eq.

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Hmm no pops? I'll check yours

Hmm no pops? I'll see if it exports that way and post an mp3. And yeah I agree the padsynths were much better. It was just out of curiosity and for comparison purposes.

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https://www.dropbox.com/s

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4cl3w4naheps9se/UA%20Choirs_2.mp3?dl=0 You can especially hear what I mean by "pops" right at the beginning.

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Oh yes.. I catch it.. This

Oh yes.. I catch it.. This kind of rain-drops sound.. Or like the scratches of an old vynil..

They last as long as the envelope of the source 'SUBsynth) is >0..

Yes, I didn't hear them on my PC's loudspeakers, but on my earphones, I got them..

I had them too on my "Ghost Choir" file that I posted some weeks ago..

http://www.singlecellsoftware.com/node/13468

And I mentioned it..

I don't think we ce can do anything against this.. Only REJ can, because it's inside the formant filter itself.. Don't know if he has read my post, and if he reads here.. Maybe we should tell this in the "bug report" section..

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Yeah, although it's something

Yeah, although it's something I would think he's surely aware of. I mean it's such a strong effect its hard to miss. Maybe it's just the nature of the formant filter. But I guess we don't know if we don't ask.

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Now I gotta see what you did

Now I gotta see what you did in your ghost choirs song.

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@JHS .. I f ever you comme

@JHS .. I f ever you comme again on this thread, and read this post..
When you were working on your Credo, did you too have those faint kinda scratch noises when using the formant filter ?? Faint, but still present and disturbing..

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Thanks for the files guys :)

Thanks for the files guys :)

The power is in your hands

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No problem. Maybe there was

No problem. Maybe there was something you could use. If not, maybe someone else will post more...

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Hello there..

Hello there..
H was willing to go further with PADsynth and parametric, so I worked more with these tools.. See here..
http://www.singlecellsoftware.com/forum/59
And have a good day..
Thierry

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Hi all,

Hi all,

I made a decision to not beta-test 3.2 so I can't open your .caustic files.  I went back and checked and found I used both compression and parametric EQ on the modular.  A choir sound in Padsynth is my machine import source and I do not send it back to source.  I have the Padsynth muted.  I may have added the EQ to kill something unwanted because it is cutting a fairly tight band quite a bit.  However, I turned off the EQ and still didn't hear any pops or gurgles.

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Ah.. Even with earphones ?

Ah.. Even with earphones ?

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Have you found what U looking

Have you found what U looking for? @Rkillah

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Nah. Man

Nah. Man

The power is in your hands

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OK go here: http://patcharena

OK go here: http://patcharena.com/tag/free-sfz-instruments/

You will definitely find nice digs, a very large collection of free sound fonts. Always remember to add tweaks to your own sounds. I literally spend days and even weeks trying to tweak a sound to match the sound I'm hearing in my head. I know that there is only but limited resources available on the mobile platform but you still have to try